Mormonism LIVE: 031: Property Purchases & Changed Countenances

Today we catch up on current events namely discussing the recent property purchases by the Church in Washington and Hawaii. We then discuss the recent language of judgement by famous LDS author and now General Authority (second counselor in the Young Men general presidency) Brad Wilcox about how those who leave can be seen to have their Countenances changed for the worse and seem to have their lives in a mess. If there is time we will also hit on the possible removal of the “Becoming Like God” Gospel Topic Essay.

RESOURCES:

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/06/24/latest-mormon-land-church/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0W71YTn_fE

https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1975/10/the-privilege-of-holding-the-priesthood?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR0thqKeYOxHIZK_x4RDeDvsOM4-aYvI6eeh8VCDPuQYvZyk9XRCBeDlgpE

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222: Adam Miller Future Mormon

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Today I sit down with Mormon Philosopher Adam Miller.  It’s his third time on the program and we talk about his newest book “Future Mormon”.  We talk about various aspects of the book which he wrote to his children and to future members of the Church.  What will the future of Mormonism look like?  Time will tell but till then we can hope in the next generation of Mormons’ ability to rise above the flaws of the present and carry us to a better Mormonism.

You can purchase the two books mentioned in the podcast here:

Future Mormon

Nothing New Under The Sun

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201: Robert Reynolds: Unstuck

Unstuck

Today we sit down with LDS author Robert Reynolds.  He has written the book “Unstuck” – How The Savior Frees Us From Our Favorite Sins .  We talk about letting go of trying to “work our way to heaven” and instead focus on reliance on Christ and his grace.  We talk about willingness to be on the path and how to maintain this grace centered connection.

Purchase the Book here

Deseret News Article on Robert and the book Unstuck

 

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194: Trust in the Dual Power of The Atonement

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On Sunday January 24th I will have given a sacrament talk on the subject of the atonement.  I have released an audio rehearsal of that talk the night before giving it.  This is tied and hence repeats much of what is said in the premium episode “Nephi’s Faith Transition” but also covers other ground.  I hope you enjoy and can feel my testimony of Christ come through!  May the Lord warm your shoulders!!!

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105: Grace and It’s Changing Power

 

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Today I share the presentation I did in the Indianapolis IN YSA Conference.  My subject was Grace and it’s changing power in our lives.   Included is a 15 minute soundbite from Brad Wilcox’s talk “His Grace is Sufficient”

The powerpoint for this episode is available on the products page of the website

 Resources

Brad and Wendee (his daughter) Wilcox – “Faith an Anchor to the Soul”

Robert Millet “Grace After All We  Can Do”

Stephen Robinson “Believing Christ, A Practical Approach to the Atonement”

 

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053: Grace Fireside: His Grace is Suffcient

GraceA fireside I did on God’s Grace and my view of the Doctrine of Christ.  There is a powerpoint associated with this episode that is available for sale on the products page which is great for Firesides.

Premium subscribers get the powerpoint for free, email me for that – reelmormon@gmail.com

Brad Wilcox – His Grace is Suffcient
Stephen Robinson – “Believing Christ”
Robert Milllet – “Grace after all we can do”
Robert Millet – “Why not speak of the atonement”
Brad and Wendee Wilcox – “faith, an anchor to my soul”
Bruce R McConkie “what think ye of salvation by grace”
Gerald Lund “salvation: by Grace or works”

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047: Adam Miller: Rube Goldberg Machines

RubeGoldbergToday we sit down with Adam Miller, Philosopher, Theologian, and Author of the book “Rube Goldberg Machines : Essays in Mormon Theology”.

The Book can be found at Greg Kofford Books
and at Amazon as a Kindle edition –
We speak at length about Grace and Adam concludes offering some great advice for those struggling.  His book is an absolute for any deep thinker who wishes to go deeper into Grace and the Atonement.
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028: Brad Wilcox Pt. 1

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Brad Wilcox is a professor of education at Brigham Young University and author of several books as well as a popular speaker in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

He served a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Chile.

Along with being a professor of education at Brigham Young University, he also has been a member of the general board of the Sunday School of the LDS Church. From 2003-2006 Wilcox was president of the Santiago Chile East Mission. He has also served as a bishop. In 2007 he was called as a counselor in the presidency of the BYU 4th stake.

Wilcox and his wife Deborah G. Gunnell “Debi” Wilcox, are the parents of 4 children. Debi is a registered nurse who served a mission in Guatemala before she married Brad.

Among books by Wilcox are The Continuous Atonement, Raising Ourselves to the Bar, The Continuous Conversion

Wilcox has often been a speaker at such Church Educational System programs as Especially for Youth and also at BYU Education Week and the BYU Women’s Conference. He may be most known for his talk “His Grace is Suffcient”

Resources

http://bradwilcox.com/

http://deseretbook.com/Continuous-Conversion-Brad-Wilcox/i/5097498

http://speeches.byu.edu/?act=viewitem&id=1966

http://www.lds.org/new-era/2012/08/his-grace-is-sufficient?lang=eng

http://www.byutv.org/watch/49475abb-10d4-4f45-a757-7000b9945468

http://deseretbook.com/Learning-Not-Earning-Heaven-Brad-Wilcox/i/5076995

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029: Brad Wilcox Pt. 2

BradWilcox

Brad Wilcox is a professor of education at Brigham Young University and author of several books as well as a popular speaker in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

He served a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Chile.

Along with being a professor of education at Brigham Young University, he also has been a member of the general board of the Sunday School of the LDS Church. From 2003-2006 Wilcox was president of the Santiago Chile East Mission. He has also served as a bishop. In 2007 he was called as a counselor in the presidency of the BYU 4th stake.

Wilcox and his wife Deborah G. Gunnell “Debi” Wilcox, are the parents of 4 children. Debi is a registered nurse who served a mission in Guatemala before she married Brad.

Among books by Wilcox are The Continuous Atonement, Raising Ourselves to the Bar, The Continuous Conversion

Wilcox has often been a speaker at such Church Educational System programs as Especially for Youth and also at BYU Education Week and the BYU Women’s Conference. He may be most known for his talk “His Grace is Suffcient”

Resources

http://bradwilcox.com/

http://deseretbook.com/Continuous-Conversion-Brad-Wilcox/i/5097498

http://speeches.byu.edu/?act=viewitem&id=1966

http://www.lds.org/new-era/2012/08/his-grace-is-sufficient?lang=eng

http://www.byutv.org/watch/49475abb-10d4-4f45-a757-7000b9945468

http://deseretbook.com/Learning-Not-Earning-Heaven-Brad-Wilcox/i/5076995

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027: Sunstone Kirtland Talk

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This is from my Talk in the Kirtland Temple at the combined conference with Sunstone and the “Mormons in the Midwest”. My talk was titled “God’s Amazing Grace”

I hope you enjoy. It is based on both my view of the doctrine of Christ and the enabling power of his amazing grace along with some thoughts for those who are struggling faith.

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022: John Montgomery: Leading With Faith

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John Montgomery is a faithful LDS who encountered ridicule and persecution as a teenager and young adult causing him to spend some time out of the Church. He tells his spending time in other churches, encounter with Hugh Nibley and FARMS, defending his faith, and his return to church with a greater appreciation for Faith.

Terryl Givens – Lightning out of Heaven – http://speeches.byu.edu/?act=viewitem&id=1508

Brad Wilcox – Grace is Suffcient – http://speeches.byu.edu/?act=viewitem&id=1966

 

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008: Defining Doctrine

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Have you ever been taught in the church that

– the Earth was 6,000 years old?

– All native Americans are Lamanites?

– Evolution is absolutely false

Have you discovered some comments by leaders that are racist and offensive?

Have you ever heard a crazy opinion from a leader that you disagreed with?

Many of us have and as we in our mind define the Church, many of us make the mistake of incorporating these ideas into what we consider to be the “Official Doctrine” of the Church.  Sometimes these items are so obtrusive to our making progress that they cause us to leave the church or to wallow in a faith crisis for long periods of time.  We need not have this happen.  We simply need to confront our perception and fix it where it is skewed and doesn’t match reality.

Once one confronts this issue one recognizes very quickly that the Church has all along cautioned it’s members from taking the words of one leader or member and constituting that as Doctrine.

Resources for this podcast

D. Todd Christofferson – https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/04/the-doctrine-of-christ?lang=eng

Neil Anderson Q12 – http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/10/trial-of-your-faith?lang=eng

FAIR-Doctrine- http://www.fairlds.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2012/02/What_is_Mormon_Doctrine.pdf

Bob Millet – http://www.ldsces.org/xml/iws/60500/RLM%20What%20is%20Our%20Doctrine.pdf

Church Newsroom – http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine

Thanks for Listening!!!!!

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006: Grace: Perfected in Christ

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Grace – One of the most important principles in the Doctrine of Christ is so often misunderstood in LDS circles.  Many feel Grace is only a last minute booster that assist us once we have done all we can do.  Is that really what the church teaches?  This episode is spent giving a synopsis of the 4 part Doctrine of Christ episodes.

Grace is my favorite topic to discuss within the church but it is tied to multiple other principles                    MERCY, PERFECTED IN CHRIST, SANCTIFICATION, HUMILITY, MERITS OF CHRIST, PRESSING FORWARD WITH STEADFASTNESS, FAITH, REPENTANCE, ORDINANCES.

This episode represents my view only though I feel it is supported by LDS scriptural cannon as a whole and also seems to portray Grace in a way that other faiths can relate to.

RESOURCES FOR THIS EPISODE

As a background there are seven talks that are a must read/listen (Not that you must read them here but if you want to know where my view derives from, these are it)

Brad Wilcox – His Grace is Suffcient http://byutv.org/watch/49475abb-10d4-4f … 00b9945468 Stephen Robinson – “Believing christ” http://speeches.byu.edu/?act=viewitem&id=489

Robert Milllet – “Grace after all we can do”  http://byutv.org/watch/60717463-af28-4478-b759-b51f0278d1cb#!page=1&season=2012

Robert Millet – “Why not speak of the atonement” http://byutv.org/watch/4c198ffd-2dc7-46 … a1c700ca21

Brad and Wendee Wilcox – “faith, an anchor to  my soul  http://ce.byu.edu/cw/womensconference/archive/2007/pdf/BradWilcoxandWendeeWilcox-2007.pdf

Bruce R McConkie “what think ye of salvation by grace” http://speeches.byu….der.php?id=6910

Gerald Lund “salvation: by Grace or works” http://www.lds.org/e…-works?lang=eng

ScriptureS I use all the time to reference my views and to teach grace and the pure Doctrine of Christ2nd Nephi all of chapter 31 with special focus to verse 18-21 then going to Ch 32:6Helaman 3:352nd Nephi 2:33rd Nephi 27:16-20Alma 42:22-24Alma 24:11Mosiah 5:15Jacob 4:7, 12Ether 12:272nd Nephi 25: 23-26, 29-30Alma 24:11 (goes with 2nd Nephi 25:23)Moroni 10:32-33D&C 19:11-18followed up by D&C 88:21Alma 5:12-15, 26, 28 through the endD&C 20:30-34D&C 137:9Abraham 3:25Galatians 3:24Galatians 2:20-212nd Corinthians 12:7-10Romans 14:1-8Romans 11:27-32Romans 10:9-13,Romans 10:3Romans 8:6-14Romans 8:1-4Romans 6:14-19Romans 5:1-9 &17-19Romans 4:3-5, 16, 24-25Romans 3:7-12, 20 -end of chapter Romans 2:11-15

There are many others but this will get you started.

Written Synopsis

1.) – Most Latter Day Saints use either 2nd Nephi 25:23 or the Bible Dictionary to share their understanding that grace comes in after and only after we do all we can do and expend our own best efforts. Nobody ever does their best for a whole day nevermind a lifetime. We fall short. Because many think they have to do their best they become depressed, discouraged, and give up. This understanding of 2nd Nephi 25:23 is incorrect. the after has many meanings. It can also be translated as notwithstanding or nevertheless. In other words “inspite of all I do, it is Grace by which I am saved”. The bible Dictionary simply furthers the wrong interpretation. The LDS bible dictionary is not doctrine and is not binding as it says so itself in it’s introduction.

2.) Ether 12:27 – God gave us our weakness or made us a natural Man that makes mistakes and is fallen and has flaws. Why did he do that? So we would be humble. Why? So we would turn to his Son. Why? Because his Son makes Weakness Strengths – 2nd Cor 12:9-10. Stop beating yourself up, Paul didn’t.

3.) Many in the church want to have value placed on works.  They will say things that tend to say “I need to earn my salvation”  but these scriptures and quotes say otherwise

Helaman 14:13, Alma 24:10, Moroni 6:4, D&C 3:20, 2nd Nephi 31:19

there are many more… a whole slew of them.  Now this doesn’t mean “one only need believe, and then thou art saved” like some evangelicals proclaim.

Rather we must get in our heads Keeping commandments, accepting ordinances, doing good works are all required and necessary. But they are in place to push us to grow, progress, and through Christ’s grace receive the mighty change from Alma 5

4.) We place value on outside behavior but god looketh on the heart as the bible says and also Helaman 3:35 says it is our yielding our heart to God that brings sanctification… aka: the mighty change.

5.) To live with God again we must be justified. To do so can be done three ways.

A.) To keep the law perfectly – Only Jesus did, so sorry your out of luck here

B.) To live the gospel always pressing forward with steadfastness and repenting when you don’t: repentance means change

C.) D&C 19:15-18 to suffer for your own sins

6.)This will justify you (make you clean from your sins) but in order to live with God you must be sanctified as well (spiritually changed to be Christlike)<— this doesn’t happen instantaneouly for most, it is a journey… one day at a time.

D&C 88:21 only the sanctified will be Celestial. Sanctification comes from yoking with Christ and using his Grace or enabling power to change (Ether 12:27). This change will happen in the eternities for many who would have done so here if the opportunity presented itself. Perfection is an eternal Goal, will not be achieved in this life.

7.)So how do we access this. Grace comes in as soon as we exercise faith and grace added to Grace as we live more and more of the gospel in our heart. Moroni 10:32 – 33 – you must see this scripture as a process and you must not think that you have to reach a certain level of righteousness at any one point in this life. Notice how we become perfected in Christ then later we become perfect in Christ.

8.) To be perfected in Christ is to yoke with him in the baptismal covenant and live that covenant. When we do so we have a relationship with Christ. We borrow his perfection as we keep this covenant. His grace is at work in our life perfecting us.

9.) What is the covenant – Mosiah 18 – be “willing” to mourn with those that mourn, comfort those in need of comfort, stand as a witness of him, remember him always (sacrament), and repent when you mess up. Look at the bread prayer and Water Prayer of the sacrament – Only the bread asks us to keep the commandments but it also says “willing”. The Water prayer says neither. If you had to “keep the commandments” to have his spirit – you would break the covenant within minutes of making it and he would be bound to remove the spirit from you all the time. But if your promise is to be willing to keep the commandments then you can do it. It measures your desires, and attitude, and motives. You still must repent when behavior is sin but that too demonstrates your heart and willingness to be humble and to follow him.

There is so much more to this but this is a good outline of my feelings on the subject.

I will conclude with this. The church on LDS.ORG has this definiton of Grace which is newer and I feel 100% on

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?l … 82620aRCRD

Grace

Grace is the help or strength given through the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ. Through the grace of God, everyone who has lived will be resurrected—our spirits will be reunited with our bodies, never again to be separated. Through His grace, the Lord also enables those who live His gospel to repent and be forgiven.

Grace is a gift from Heavenly Father given through His Son, Jesus Christ. The word grace, as used in the scriptures, refers primarily to enabling power and spiritual healing offered through the mercy and love of Jesus Christ.

Everyone on earth experiences physical death. Through the grace of Jesus Christ, all will be resurrected and will live forever (see 1 Corinthians 15:20–22; 2 Nephi 9:6–13).

Because of personal choices, everyone also experiences the effects of sin (see 1 John 1:8–10; Mosiah 16:4). These effects are called spiritual death. No one can return to the presence of God without divine grace. Through the Atonement, we all can be forgiven of our sins; we can become clean before God. To receive this enabling power, we must obey the gospel of Jesus Christ, which includes having faith in Him, repenting of our sins, being baptized, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost, and trying to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ for the rest of our lives (see Ephesians 2:8–9; James 2:17–22; 2 Nephi 25:23; 31:20).

The grace of God helps us every day. It strengthens us to do good works we could not do on our own. The Lord promised that if we humble ourselves before Him and have faith in Him, His grace will help us overcome all our personal weaknesses (see Ether 12:27).

Notice the word Trying (I bolded, italicized, and underlined). Compare this definition with the LDS Bible Dictionary. See the difference?

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004: Doctrine of Christ Pt. 3

Doctrine of Christ
In this episode we focus on Grace, Mercy and their role in Justification and Sactification.  This discussion leads us into the following podcast on Ordinances Good Works.

Resources to help one study these topics

Brad Wilcox “His Grace is Suffcient” – http://speeches.byu.edu/?act=viewitem&id=1966

Gerald Lund “Salvation By Grace or Works” – http://www.lds.org/ensign/1981/04/salvation-by-grace-or-by-works

Robert Millet  “Grace, after all we can do” – http://byutv.org/watch/60717463-af28-4478-b759-b51f0278d1cb

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